• Temecula Valley Prospectors

    panninghelpTVP was formed September 2001. Our purpose is to provide an environment for both members and visitors to become more knowledgeable about the ecologically safe recovery of gold and gems from our public lands that are open to mineral entry. Also to teach each other about equipment use and methods as well as keeping up with the ever changing mining and prospecting laws.




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Our New Website is Here!

Hello Eager Prospectors,
We have finally got our new website up and running!
It is a bit of a work in progress so feel free to give us your ideas on how to make it better and especially what you would like to see.
We are looking for anyone who wants to write articles about prospecting trips & outings, tips on prospecting, or anything else that you think would be useful for your fellow prospectors to know.
Don't forget to send us your prospecting pictures so we can get them on the site.
Josh

Event Schedule

2nd Sunday of every month Metal Detecting events:

January
Bolsa Chica Beach
February
San Onofre State Beach
March
Perris Lake – back side/camping area
April
Canyon Lake with picnic – need to apply
May
Cal Oaks Park (on 3rd Sunday to avoid Mother’s Day on 2nd Sunday)
June
TO BE DETERMINED
July
Ronald Regan Park in Temecula
August
Oceanside – North of Pier
September
Carlsbad State Beach
October
Live Oak Park in Fallbrook

 

 

Metal Detecting

Sun, July 14th
Time: 8am, meet at the playground area
Where: Ronald Reagan Park
42659 Margarita Road
Temecula, CA 92592

July Club Meeting

The July meeting of the Temecula Valley Prospectors will be held on Saturday 12th, 2014 at 9:00 a.m.
Our meetings are held at the Ronald Reagan Sports Park in the CRC Building located at 30875 Rancho Vista Road. Temecula Ca.
Everyone is welcome, so we hope to see you there!
 
Keep buying those raffle tickets the Grand Prize is getting close to being given away, possibly at the July Meeting.
 
ITEM 1: This is something the Board is going to try for the next GRAND PRIZE, The winner of the next Grand Prize will get a choice from the following list of three items for them to pick from.
 
1. a.} 3 Felix Pay dirt 2 pound bags.
    b.} 7 Eureka Joe's 2 pound gold bags
(They do not get both, but can choose one of them.)
 
2. Keene A-52 Sluice Box, With a 2-4-8-12-20-30-50 Mesh classifying sieves. {7 classifying screens }
 
3. Digital Pro Magnum scale, Estwing Supreme 22 oz. rock pick, u-dig-it hand trowel, gad pry bar, back pack super sucker, premium crevice tool, pocket loupe, fine point tweezers, gold magnet, snuffer bottle and pouch, Garrett 10" gold pan, and a 2# Felix Pay Dirt Bag.
 
ITEM 2: Have you been out Metal Detecting or Gold Prospecting this last month? Find anything? Then bring it to the meeting so we all can see all entries are voted on, and the top in each category will win some GOLD, we will have a new category for Rocks and Gems.
 
ITEM 3: We have four Great Raffles each month {not counting the Grand Prize} in which you can participate while attending the meeting; it's a lot of fun to be included, especially when you win! The best part is how your participation helps support the club.

Door Prize Raffle {Free}: Just by signing in, you are entered into the Door Prize Raffle. We normally have 1 to 4 prizes.
 
50/50 Raffle {$1 per ticket}: This is the easiest raffle of them all...if you win: you split {50/50} all the money collected for the 50/50 raffle with the club, For Example, if $70.00 is collected, the you as the winner, get $35 and the club keeps $35
.
Gold Raffle {$1 per ticket}: One bag of gold concentrates to work on your panning skills and some nice gold nuggets to show your friends.
 
Table Raffle {$1 per ticket}: You might think---what am I going to do with a table? But the Table Raffle is an array of items, setting on the table that the winners can choose from. There are typically 10-15 items ranging in value from a few dollars to over a hundred dollars on occasions, the nice thing about the table raffle are that you can see what is there before you purchase your tickets. With our new format, the member with the winning ticket will then reach inside a tub and grab a numbered chip that will correspond with a chip on the item you have won.
 
When you buy raffle tickets, for every $20.00 you spend, you will get an extra ticket for a chance at winning several Gold Nuggets at the Christmas Party. The raffle table also helps the club with their expenses, since there are no membership fees or dues to pay. So be sure to get your Grand Prize Raffle tickets.
 
Be sure to come to the next meeting and ask questions if you have some, concerning the grand prizes, and when it will be given away, also about the new TVP Claims Guide, and I. D. Cards.
 
If you were able to make it to the T V P Fundraiser, "SPRING INTO PROSPECTING" in May held at the Bull Dog Brewery located at 41379 Date Street Murrieta Ca. I think everyone that was there had a good time, good food and a THANKS to Phil for setting it up, and a Thanks to all those who Volunteered their time.
 
At the last Board meeting, the Board elected Phil Gellentien, to be our new Event Director; he will be looking into doing more club events in the area and getting more exposure in local newspapers, which will good for the club.
Be sure to use the suggestion box at the sign-in table, if anyone has ideas for the club, or different places they would like to go on outings, ideas for grand prizes, raffle table items, make your suggestions be heard, make some suggestions for the board to look at.
 
Also since we don't have a guest speaker for the July Meeting, maybe some of the members who went to the new claims, Big Ken and Little Ken could talk about their outing experiences.
 
Also at the July Meeting the topic of next years election of officers will be discussed.
 
Be sure and check out the website for the upcoming outings for next several months.
 
HOPE TO SEE YOU AT THE MAY MEETING!!!
 
 
 
 

CHAPTER SUPPORT

Help to keep the, "TEMECULA VALLEY PROSPECTORS" a strong chapter, we ask of you since there are no dues to be a member of Temecula Valley Prospectors, we ask for your help by supporting your club with the purchasing of some raffle tickets, this gives you a chance at winning some nice prizes, and now when you spend $20.00 dollars you will get an extra ticket for a special drawing at the Christmas Party which will be a 1/2 oz. gold nugget, and that will a nice prize for the lucky winner.
 
We also have a selection of prospecting equipment that can be checked out and used by the members at no charge, rather than spending the money and then finding out it's not what you really wanted.
 
We also have a great library, ran by Vickie Gunderson who is the Librarian and is helped out by Jack Gunderson, they will able to help with checking the books out and help finding that special book you are looking for. There are books on Metal Detecting, Rock and Gem hunting and collecting, maps with old ghost town and old gold mines to explore, there are also VHS and CD's on mining tips, and How to Advice, also some of the books show you how to build your own equipment, all you have to do is fill out the card and return the books at the next meeting. So enjoy your TVP library.
 
The money from the purchase of raffle tickets help with the purchase and maintaince of the new claims, our storage facility, purchase of new equipment, insurance for the club, buying books for the library, to maintain our website, buying prizes for the monthly raffles, donations for the refreshments help pay for the next meeting refreshments, also for paying the rent for the building we meet in, and the annual fees we have to pay for our claims.
These are some of the ways to support your club, and to keep it as successful as we can.
 
Buy Raffle Tickets
And
Volunteer

PLP Raffle

raffle flyer
July 19th-20th
Gold mountain, Big Bear Ca
August 16th and 17th
Gold mountain, Big Bear Ca
September 20th and 21st
To Be Determined
October 18th and 19th
Octoberfest, Randsburg, Ca
October dates TBD
Big Horse Corn Maze


 

 
For details see American Prospectors Treasure Seeker
Upcoming outings
PLP Octoberfest
Be sure to RSVP if you plan on attending ASAP!!!
 
 
Gold Mountain Outing Directions
 
There are several ways to get to Gold Mt. depending where you live, you can take the 15 Frwy. North then the 210 Frwy. East towards San Bernardino or 15 Frwy. North from the Temecula area to the 10 Frwy East to the 215 Frwy. North to the 210 Frwy. East to Waterman Ave., North which is Hwy. 18 towards Lake Arrowhead/ Crestline, or the 15 Frwy. north to the 215 Frwy. North from the Temecula area to the 210 Frwy. East to either Waterman Ave., North / Hwy. 18 or continue on to 330 North towards Running Springs which is Hwy.330.
From the 210 Frwy. And Waterman Ave. Hwy. 18 to Polique Canyon Road is about 44 miles and 1hour and 10 minutes.
From the 210 Frwy. And Hwy. 330 to Polique Canyon is about38 miles and 55 minutes.
This mileage and time is plus or minus.
From Hwy. 38 and Polique Canyon Road to the claim is about 6 miles and 30 minutes plus or minus.
For those who use their GPS here is some LAT / LONG. That might be helpful
Hwy.38 and Polique Canyon Road.
Lat. 34* 15' 53"
Long. 116* 55' 15"
Polique Canyon Road and Holcomb Valley Road.
Lat. 34* 18' 17"
Long. 116* 54' 36"
Holcomb Valley Road and Arctic Canyon Road
Lat. 34* 18' 23"
Long. 116* 54' 43"
Gold Mountain Claim

This is a little bit of History I found on the internet about the Holcomb Valley area and the discovery of gold in the area, and that you might find interesting when going on the Gold Mt. outing and are exploring the area.

 

      It all began when William F. Holcomb and his partner, Jack Martin, leftIndianaand made the difficult overland trip in search of their fortune in the booming mining camps ofNorthern California. Discouraged by years of hard luck, they gradually made their way southward. Arriving inLos Angeles, the partners heard of gold being mined at a place calledBearValleyin theSan Bernardino Mountains.

     Riding into the valley through heavy snow in the winter of 1859, Holcomb and Martin joined the Coldwell party, who were placer mining at Starvation Flat. (This is the area around the intersection of Stanfield Cut-off andBig Bear Boulevard.) After more discouraging results, the partners were on the verge of returning toLos Angeleswhen a modest strike revived their hopes. They kept on working their claim, each making about five dollars a day.

     Late in April,BillHolcomb was bear hunting on the north ridge when he saw the beautiful little valley that would forever carry his name. On May 5, 1860 - just ten years to the day since leaving hisIndianahome -Billand his friend, Ben Chouteau, began prospecting the new valley and found much gold. The Coldwell party then immediately moved into "Holcomb's Valley" and began to busily mine.

     News of this important strike traveled swiftly, and by July the valley was swarming with people. Soon the little communities ofBelleville, Union Flat andClapboardTownhad been built, and Jed Van Duzen was paid $1500 to construct a wagon road down to the desert. It is estimated that between 1500 and 2000 people were inHolcombValleyduring the peak of the boom in the 1860's when the county seat was lost toSan Bernardinoby only two votes.

 

      TheHolcombValleygold rush of 1860 brought hundreds of miners into the area the initial mining was for placer gold and was primarily done by small groups or individuals with claims along the stream beds.

      Soon afterward quartz mining began, and major mines were the Mammoth, Olio, Pine Tree, Metzgar, and further west, the Greenlead. This hard rock mining required stamp mills to crush the rock, and several mills were built at different sites.

      The largest placer operation was by the Valley Gold Company, Ltd., following 1890. They eventually brought in a huge railroad steam shovel that could dig 1000 yards of gravel a day and the long windrows still visible were made by this shovel.

      The Gold Mountain Mine northwest ofBaldwinLakewas the most visible and best known in the area. It had two huge, 40-stamp mills at different times. The first was built in 1875 and the second in 1900. The massive foundation for the stamps of a later mill is very prominent today. The town ofDoblewas on a flat below the mine.

      Other prominent mines are those inBlackhawkCanyonon the desert side, and many inLoneValleyand further east. There are the ruins of the Moronga Silver Mine, the Christy, Morongo King, and the very rich Rose Mine. At the crest of the mountain north of the Rose Mine are several tunnels of the Tip-Top Silver Mine.

      Today no structures remain at any of these historic mines, and only caved in tunnels, collapsing shafts, and piles of colorful tailings are evidence that they once existed!

SLUICE BOXES AND THERE SETUP

In the Gold Rush of 49, the "long- tom" and sluice combination was used by the miners and was the predecessor to the modern day sluice box, at first the "long- tom" and sluice was used to process the slurry from the use of the hydraulic monitor; the monitor was supplied by water brought to it through a flume, which was built far above the area where the miners were going to work, it was no more than a 3 sided trough made of wooden planks that carried the water down to a canvas hose, which later they used a crinoline covered canvas which reinforced the canvas, and later on it changed to a pipe which decreased in size along it's run to the monitor, this produce more pressure at the monitor nozzle, which could up to 200 lbs per square inch, the water at high pressure was used to erode the hills side bench gravels away, and run the gravel slurry down the "long-tom" to the sluice boxes at the end, at the end of the "long-tom" there was a perforated plate that would catch the large material and it was removed by the miners, and the fine material went to the sluice box's, the early sluice box's used poles that either ran vertical with the run of the sluice or horizontal across the sluice, or zig-zag blocks were used in the sluice and even a bed of stones to catch the gold, like it would in the river bottom, they also used a rocker box this was a two man operation, the hydraulic type of mining was soon banned around 1884, the farmers and ranchers went to the government in Sacramento, for help to stop the flooding and all the sediment from the use of the monitors coming down the stream, which ruined the farm land and pastures, later this was overturned, if the miners were to build structures which would catch the sediment and stop the flooding, but this didn't work so the ban stayed in effect.
 
The set up the sluice is important, you have to have enough drop from inlet to outlet of the sluice to move the material through it usually 1 inch per 1 foot of length, and level from side to side. Do some sampling of the area before choose a spot you want to set up your sluice, and an area you want to dig in, preferable close to the stream; it's nice not to have to carry material too far, the stream you set up in may not have enough water flow, you can increase this by directing the water to the sluice, by using a wig dam [rocks that are directed towards the sluice in a V pattern from the inlet end] , or pile rocks upstream to dam the water up to help the flow of water directed towards the sluice, also sometimes called an elevator / dam. When you think you have got every thing set up try a few rocks ¾ to 1 inch placed in the inlet of the sluice and see if they wash through, if they do you are probably ok to run your material, you can also try a few small pieces of lead shot to see where most of them get trapped in the riffles. It is also a good idea to anchor your sluice, using a flat rock on top of it to keep it from floating down stream, since most of the new ones today are made of aluminum, or some other light weight material. When running material through the sluice there are two thoughts on it, 1st is to classify the material down to ¼ inch minus, this will eliminate any larger material going through your sluice and knocking the gold out of the riffles, shovel enough fine material in and have it wash through and wash all the light material off, before the next shovel, so as not to clog up the riffles or have the gold wash out past the riffles and not being caught behind them. The second is to use a perforated plate insert above the riffles which will let the fine material drop through it and the larger material will go on through, either way is ok it just depends how much material you want to run or how quick you want to run it, slower is some times better, After running your sluice for awhile check the outlet end and see if there is a build up of material, if there is clear it away this could effect the flow through your sluice, also check the riffles to see if is a lot of material behind them, this is called "packed up", you could be losing gold, if there is you may need to increase the flow, the material should be in a swirling motion behind the riffle, and the heavy gold will drop in behind the riffle, if there is no material behind the riffles, you may need to decrease the flow of water through the sluice, this is called "boiling", if material builds up on one side and not the other, you may need to level your sluice from side to side, at the end of your run time it's time to clean up, pick the sluice straight up level and slow as not to let the water rush out the end you could lose some gold, clean everything up into a 5 gal. bucket, and pan your concentrate, and hope you have a lot of gold in your pan.
 

 

METAL DETECTING

Right outside your front door and in your community is a source of wealth and money. Our local Parks
are close to you and will give up their treasures with a little bit of work and persistence. All that is
required is a Metal Detector, a trowel, and maybe a pin pointer, which does not have to be expensive to
do the job. The metal detector price ranges from $100.to $1,500. And all will work to find treasures in
the parks.
 
On most occasions we use $100. Bounty Hunter Metal Detectors and found many coins to include
pennies, dimes, and quarters. When detecting, go around fire pits, benches and especially on sides of
slopes between the trees. Most coins are found at 2 to 4 inch depth and will require some digging to
locate. Always check again because we find 2 or more coins together in a lot of locations. We used
pin pointers to locate the targets faster which gave us more time to search for more items like jewelry,
kids toys, along with dangerous items that can hurt lids, like pins and razor blades. Keep parks clean
by picking up after those who are lazy and litter our parks. Talk to parents while you are at the parks
and inform them of the dangers that you find. This will give you a good name with them and will be
appreciated. Once you have found a new Park and find coins at the 3 to 4 inch levels go to a new park
and search it. This Park will be there when you run out of places to go in the future.
 
Remember, the Park does not have to be large to find treasures and do not forget the slopes where
people sit to watch sports games as they are full of targets that have fallen out of pocket
 

 

Metal Detecting Stories-1

My best finds are in the small parks that are Not centrally located in the cities. There is always
a lot of pressure at the larger parks because the average treasure hunter thinks there is more
lost items in these parks because of the crowds of people. Younger children are our best
supplier of pennies, nickels, dimes, & quarters along with small chains and rings. Items fall out
of pockets and other items break off while playing hard on the park equipment. Mom is our
next best supplier by losing coins out of the pocket, while reaching for a Kleenex for the child.
Look on grass mounds and ledges where people might sit. Remember if you locate a target 2
inches from a concrete ledge (at 6 to 8 inches down) leave it as the target is usually a rebar.
 
I set my detector for 2 to 6 inches as anything deeper is not worth spending your time on and
deeper is not worth spending your extra time on. The metal detector will let you know not to
dig up the pull tab you just got a beep from if it is set for shallow depth.
 
When selecting a park, try to find the most children's equipment park and sports parks are
great places to search. Spend your time on where people would sit and not on the fields as
most people wear uniforms with nothing in their pockets and the grass is cut short so if they
lose a ring or chain it can usually be found quickly. Check the areas with thicker grass.
 
Try not to go out to parks to detect in a group. The park service personnel will usually leave
you and your spouse alone where 4 or 5 people will draw attention and you may be asked to
leave. Always report dangerous items you find the authorities. I take a camera with me to
take pictures of where I found dangerous items. When I find pennies that are around 3 inches
deep, all encrusted with Black corrosion, I have found the "Mother Lode" as this means no one
has been there detecting before me, so I make several trips back to that same park, and it has
never let me down.
 
In my future Metal Detecting stories, I will address looking for Cache's and exploring trails in
Southern California, then Beaches which are near and dear to our hearts. Good luck and bring
home the Gold & Silver.
 

 

Metal Detecting Stories-2

I like to combine trips when Metal Detecting In California, because of the versatile amount of
things to do in the State. My wife and I will spend the morning panning for Gold and spend
the afternoon searching trails and along streams for items the old miners lost and even the
current miners also have lost. You will not believe what people lose out in the desert and in the
Mountains.
 
One occasion we spent the morning looking for that elusive gold that we know is in the ground
but just can't seem to locate. I will admit, I have found sand size gold nearly every time we go
out, but I am always thinking about what I might be missing out on by not passing that magic
wand (Metal Detector) over the grounds and in water in the streams. I have found many
unique items along the stream banks in 3 inches of water. Old pocket knives, old tin cups, and
old spoons. Nearly all Metal Detectors now days have water proof coils. Just remember, you
have to adjust the discriminator and my trick is drill a small hole in a penny and tie a wire to
it and strap it to the lace on your boot or shoe. With your feet in the water, pass the metal
detector 3 inches above it and adjust the detector to beep at the proper level. When you are
finished and out of the water, wipe off the coil and pass the metal detector over the coin again
and adjust for out of the water. This coin keeps me from having to bend over all the time and
pick up the coins. We finished off the afternoon walking up a trail that was once a stage line.
There are many old trails in California that pack trains and stage coaches used to transport
supplies and equipment to the miners. I found the public library has old books on these trails
in your area. Because they are in old books, you can not check them out but they have a copy
machine to make copies of these map locations without taking the book out of the library.
 
Sue started down the two lane trail and found pieces of Iron springs from early stage coaches
and old nuts and bolts. They are neat to find because they were made different from today's
type. We also found old coins around the horse trough at rest stop stations. There were a lot
of large old trees and rocks around the water well so we made extra passes around these areas
and just like in the treasure books, we found a cache. It had money and survival supplies in
it. The excitement of finding a box under a special large tree and in front of a boulder always
comes back when telling friends and others about your find.
 
Most stage coach trails have bullet casings on them and once you find spent brass you will
find lead around the fallen trees, so expect to hear that distinctive beep. Pick up and carry out
any brass so people who come after don't encounter the same disappointment. Look for odd
shaped trees and try to picture what they would have looked like 40 or more years ago and
spend a little more time around them with your search coil. I am a believer in having 2 size
coils. A smaller coil for desert, mountains, and streams, and a larger one for Beaches, lots, and
parks. You can buy extra used and new coils from e-bay, or your local dealers or ask members
of your local Prospector Association, they are always willing to help you out.
 
Remember, it is easier to go Metal Detecting during week days as there are less people in the
field and easier parking. Sunday afternoon and Monday Holiday afternoons are good times to
get out. Good luck and bring home the Gold & Silver.
 

 

Metal Detecting Stories-3

 I have learned over the years to go where others have been before you. This is true for Gold Panning
and Metal Detecting. We go back to the same locations after leaving it alone for 3 months. The good
part of this is after the first search, coins a jewelry are not so deep to dig and find. You have already dug
deep the first time to retrieve those deep items, and you will always find things that were missed on the
first search.
 
Before I go on each trip, I make a decision on which beach to go search with Metal Detectors. I look for
those beaches with lots of families and kids playing and having fun. Fun areas are those where kids are
running, jumping, and chasing around. Jewelry gets lost and coins fall out of pockets.
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Look around at the type of items found on beaches compared to parks and set your sights and
discriminator on finding those special items at each location. There are more coins found in parks than
gold and pennies are the usual find and the occasional dime or quarter is the highlight of the day.
 
There is a variety of coins to be found on beaches along with chains and rings. Pick a place to go and
check it out on a prior weekend for other enthusiastic people who are doing the same thing as you.
Watch where they go so you can go the opposite direction, and do not give up if at first you do not find
anything. Persistence is the name of the game when treasure hunting. The more you work at it the
more things you will find.
 
When going out treasure hunting, go with a good friend or spouse. You will work harder at finding
things if you have competition around you. If you go by yourself, you will get bored quickly and usually
give up after an hour or two. By going with a buddy, you can car pool and save gas along with lots of
money.
 
It does not take a expensive or name brand Metal Detector to find treasure. It takes an expensive
Metal Detector to find deep buried treasure. Go out and enjoy the hunt with what you can afford and
you will be hooked like the rest of us. As you find treasures, you will be able to purchased nicer, more
expensive, detectors.
 
Once you find a necklace or ring and give it to your spouse, they will be hooked and will follow you out
into the fields to look for buried treasures. All it took was a silver ring with garnets and that talked my
wife into following me anywhere. After that, we have been all over Southern California enjoying the
outdoors doing the things we love to do together.
 
Get out and enjoy yourself. You are not getting any younger.
 
Good Luck and bring home the Gold and Silver!
 

 
 
 
 
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