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    panninghelpTVP was formed September 2001. Our purpose is to provide an environment for both members and visitors to become more knowledgeable about the ecologically safe recovery of gold and gems from our public lands that are open to mineral entry. Also to teach each other about equipment use and methods as well as keeping up with the ever changing mining and prospecting laws.

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General Announcement for August

August Announcement

The next general meeting will be held on August 1st at the Assistance League of Temecula Valley [ALTV] located at 28720 Via Montezuma in Temecula Ca. The meeting starts at 9:00am, and goes until 12:00 pm. The directions are if you are going north on Jefferson Ave. turn left (west), if you are going south on Jefferson Ave. turn right (west) travel about ¼ mile + or _ to the parking lot on your right. Everyone is welcome, even the children that will become miners some day, hope to see you at the meeting. All they ask is for the room to be left as we found it, CLEAN AND NEAT, also any old items that you would like to donate to the ALTV would be appreciated; they can be dropped off at the TVP meeting or during any day of the week (Except Sunday). We want to thank the ALTV for letting us use their fantastic meeting facility to hold our TVP General Meetings.

Just a reminder TVP has found a new meeting place to hold our Board Meetings,  and members are invited to attend. The new meeting place will be located at 41118 Nick Ln in Murrieta, Faith Quality Auto Body. The directions are: take Jefferson to Date and go east to Madison and turn left at the end of the street that is Nick Lane, turn right and go to the end of the street and park inside the open gate. The meeting room is up stairs. A big thanks to Tony Amaradio, the owner of the business. Cindy and her sister Judy own a Post Office / Print Shop located at 26760 Jefferson [Jefferson & Date] and will doing our printing for the club.

Just want to remind all GPAA members who get the PICK AND SHOVEL GAZETTE there are some interesting articles in there to read on the mining laws and hearings, and for those who are not GPAA members, you can also look up on the internet and read what the, PLP [Public Lands for the People]. AMRA [American Mining Rights Association], WMA [Western Mining Alliance], MMAC [Mineral and Mining Advisory Council], GPAA [Gold Prospectors Association of America],and many other organizations, are all about, the way they are standing up for all our Mining Rights everyday and keep us all informed of new Mining Laws that try to keep us off Public Lands and from Mining our claims. So if we all band together and support these groups we will be able to keep our Rights to Mining and to entry of Public Lands.

At our General Meeting last May, we had Joe Martori, the owner of Sleepy Bear Mining talk to all the members what “MMAC” is all about and why all miners should get behind them and support them along with any of the other organizations that are listed below in the last paragraph, and if you missed the meeting, you missed a very good talk and what is important to all miners. So please remember what he had to talk about and his video. The Octoberfest this year at Sleepy Bear Mine should be bigger and greater than last year, so start preregistering at Jim’s Store, American Prospectors and Treasure Seekers for the upcoming Octoberfest if you plan on going

This is an article that I found in the Pick and Shovel Gazette a few months ago, and is fitting for what’s going on now, written by Jim Wharff and Ron Kliewer, it is titled “Apathy or Action”, When they came to close the roads, I said nothing because I didn’t drive out there. When they closed the waters to dredging, I said nothing because I didn’t dredge. When they closed waters to fishing, I said nothing because I didn’t fish. When they schemed to close the Virginia Dale / Gold Park Districts, I didn’t fight because I thought someone else would. When they took away our freedom of speech and other Constitutional Rights, there was no left who cared enough to fight… Will this be reality? It nearly is. Let’s all pull together and turn this around… for freedom!!!

Also Do not forget in September our club has its elections for the rest of the year 2015, and the following year 2016, It’s good time to start thinking if you want to run for an elected office or just thinking of someone that you want to nominate for an elected office, we now have a nominating committee that is chaired by Phil Gellentien and the members who are going to assist him are Don Starr, Sean Dupnak and Robert Yhlen. We still need some volunteers for a Teller committee to count the votes, also remember the voting members are governed by GPAA By-laws and TVP By-laws in Article 4, Sec.1, states that: VOTING-CATEGORY Member shall be a member in good standing with the Gold Prospectors Association of America [GPAA], and don’t forget to have your GPAA Card with you when you vote, and attending at least three General Meeting in the past twelve months, Sec.3, states that: Each Voting-Category member in good standing, shall be entitled to one vote on. Proxy voting will not be allowed, however, in the case of elections of Officers or Board Members, absentee voting shall be allowed. Supporting-Category Members and Visiting-Category Members do not have the right to vote in the election of Officers and Board Members, all it takes is volunteers to make this a successful election. At the time of the election all GPAA members will show their cards, go to see Carol to get a Ballot, she has an up-dated list from GPAA of members who can vote.

Don’t forget to fill out a new application form, so Carol can up-date the membership contact list at the August or September General Meeting, and to print CLEARLY, some of the EMAIL ADDRESSES are hard to read, this could be why some of members might not be getting emails or notifications, of club outing and meetings.

So in the “Suggestion Box” you can also put your nomination for officers, you can volunteer to help count the votes, also vote for the volunteer and the prospector of the year, to receive a nice prize or plaque that will be given to the winner at the Christmas Party. Be sure to use the “Suggestion Box” located at the sign-in table, if anyone has ideas to better the club, or different places they would like to go on outings, ideas for grand prizes, raffle table items, please make your suggestions heard by writing them down and the board to look at and discuss them at the next board meeting.

At the last General Meeting there was a sign-up sheet that went around for the Sonora Gold Show sponsored by the Delta Gold Diggers Chapter of GPAA. The event will be held at the Mother lode Fairgrounds in Sonora, Ca. TVP has been assured a booth so we need members to volunteer.  The Sonora Gold Show is on Aug. 22nd and 23rd, if you plan on going make reservation now to stay, in either the camp ground, or hotel in Sonora or Jamestown. This is good time to plan a vacation around the gold show and do some gold prospecting along the in the Gold Country, also to take a trip to our two Northern California private claims Big Ken and Little Ken. The club appreciates all the members who can volunteer to help out with the shows and events when they are able to do so.

Have you been out Metal Detecting or Gold Prospecting or Rock and Gem hunting this past month? Then bring it to the meeting so Ekio and Dan can put them on display. All entries will be voted on, and the top in each category will win some “GOLD”.

The prices for club Raffle Tickets are 1 for $1, 6 for $5, and 13 for $10, HELP BY SUPPORTING OUR CLUB. If you spend $20.00 you will get an extra ticket for Christmas Party drawing which will be several Gold Nuggets. The next Grand Prize will be a certificate for prospecting at the LDMA Claim in Duisenberg. There is no expiration date on this certificate. The next Grand Prize after that will be a used Tesoro Lobo Super Track metal detector.

We have four Great Raffles each month {not counting the Grand Prize} in which you can participate while attending the meeting; it’s a lot of fun to be included, especially when you win! The best part is how your participation helps support the club.

Door Prize Raffle {Free}: Just by signing in, you are entered into the Door Prize Raffle; we normally have 1 to 4 prizes to give away at each meeting.

The 50/50 Raffle:  This is the easiest raffle of them all…if you win: you split {50/50} all the money collected for the 50/50 raffle with the club. For Example, if $70.00 is collected, then you as the winner get $35 and the club keeps $35, which helps with expenses.

Table Raffle is an array of items, setting on the table that the winners can choose from. There are typically 10-15 items ranging in value from a few dollars to over a hundred dollars on occasions. Now at the raffle table, when you win a prize, your ticket or tickets go back into the tumbler and you get a second chance at the top prize on the table. The nice thing about the raffle table is that you can see what is there before you purchase your tickets also see what you have a second chance at. Member with the winning ticket will then reach inside a tub and grab a numbered chip that will correspond with a chip on the item and you have won. Good luck and support our club, remember for every $20.00 you send you get an extra ticket to a special prize at the Christmas Party [GOLD].

The Table Raffle and other Raffles, also helps the club with their expenses, buying gold for the raffle, and prizes for the raffle table and gold for the gold bags used at the club events and for the bags that are for sale at the meetings and to purchase books for the Library. So please help out since there are no membership fees or monthly dues to pay, to be a member of the Temecula Valley Prospectors, all, which is asked of you, is to help out and volunteer when you can.

Be sure to come to the next meeting in August and ask questions if you have anything concerning the grand prizes. Also ask about the new TVP Claims Guide, and ID cards, and at the next General Meeting swap out your old ID card for a new updated one, sign it and have it laminated by Rick or Sue at the PLP items and club name tag table.

Jack Gunderson is now the new equipment manager. TVP has an assortment of gold mining, and gold processing equipment that can be checked out by the members and tried out before they pay out their money to buy that piece of equipment and find out they do not like the way it works.

Be sure and check out the website for the upcoming announcements, events, meetings, newsletters, President’s messages, and outings. At the 2014, October Board Meeting we put together a list of all our outings for the rest of the year; they will be posted on the website this month, please check them.

We are still looking for a permanent Wagon Master, but until we get a permanent Wagon Master, we will still have someone volunteer for each outing. To all members who wear a shirt or hat with the club logo on it to the next General Meeting in August, they will be rewarded with an extra ticket of there choice for the raffles that day [badges do not count]


TVP’s Vice-President:

Newell Frayne

Event Schedule

August 4 Temecula History Museum - Explorers Gold Panning
September 12 Annual TVP Pond Party
October Corn Maze-Big Horse Ranch-Every Weekend
November Fallback Festival San Diego


Help to keep the, "TEMECULA VALLEY PROSPECTORS" a strong chapter, we ask of you since there are no dues to be a member of Temecula Valley Prospectors, we ask for your help by supporting your club with the purchasing of some raffle tickets, this gives you a chance at winning some nice prizes, and now when you spend $20.00 dollars you will get an extra ticket for a special drawing.
We also have a selection of prospecting equipment that can be checked out and used by the members at no charge, rather than spending the money and then finding out it's not what you really wanted.
Jeff and Reb Baraglia as Librarians, replacing the Gundersons will be able to help with checking the books out and help finding that special book you are looking for. There are books on Metal Detecting, Rock and Gem hunting and collecting, maps with old ghost town and old gold mines to explore, there are also VHS and CD's on mining tips, and How to Advice, also some of the books show you how to build your own equipment, all you have to do is fill out the card and return the books at the next meeting. So enjoy your TVP library.
The money from the purchase of raffle tickets help with the purchase and maintaince of the new claims, our storage facility, purchase of new equipment, insurance for the club, buying books for the library, to maintain our website, buying prizes for the monthly raffles, donations for the refreshments help pay for the next meeting refreshments, also for paying the rent for the building we meet in, and the annual fees we have to pay for our claims.
These are some of the ways to support your club, and to keep it as successful as we can.
Buy Raffle Tickets
August Big Bear TVP Claim Gold Mountain
October Date open/TVP Claim Big & Little Ken
December 26-30 Quartzite GPAA Flatfoot Claim


This was put together from reading several articles on dry washing and coming up with this article on dry washing, hope it is helpful, and good luck. Some good spots to try dry washing are, where new roads have been cut: you will able to see the different layers and sample the layers to which might be the best place to dig, dry washes: are also a good spot to check out because the heavy rains could have moved a lot of placer gold during the flooding and to drop out in the bends of the wash and even down to bed rock, old mine dumps: the equipment used was primarily getting the larger pieces and there could be smaller gold left behind that the dry washer would get, tailing piles: the same holds true just like mine dumps, gravel deposits: always check them out they can be a good source of gold, mountain tops: in ancient times these could have been river beds, slopes: the alluvial fan deposits could be good source of gold, dry lake beds and buried stream beds: both of these are a good source of gold, where once the streams carried gold into the lakes before they dried up.

In the early years the prospectors used a method called "winnowing", this was done by putting the material on a blanket and bouncing it up and down, this would let the light material blow off and the fine flower gold would get trapped in the blanket fibers. The dry washers used today there are two types one is the bellows or puffer, or constant air and the other is electrostatic.

When looking for a good spot to set up your dry washer, it helps to do some sampling instead of digging in an area that might not produce gold, you can dry pan, classify material to 1/8 minus use the same technique as wet panning, shake pan back and forth to settle the heavy's, pick out large rocks [inspect them before discarding, might have gold], bounce the material down to one side and lightly blow off the light material. If you do a lot of sampling it is good idea to bag samples and mark location for a return trip. Take the samples back to camp and wet pan them out. Use a metal detector to help locate a possible good area to dig, or even a pair of dowsing rods the more help you have the better the gold could be. But there is one important thing to do before running the material and that is to check the moisture of the material, if you can take a handful of material and squeeze it and it pack into a clump, it is a good idea to be dried out before running thru the dry washer, spread material on a trap and keep moving it around to let the sun dry it. There is a formula you can use to find the moisture content, but the trap method is easier. After you have determined where the mother load is, the material you plan to run works better if classified down to 1/4 minus this will keep large rocks from possibly knocking out gold, when running the material check the riffles to see if there is a lot of black sand building up and clogging up the dead air space behind the riffles. There are also hazards that come with dry washing in the desert areas, abandon mine shafts and drift tunnels, heat in the summer months. Dry washing can be exhausting work so pace yourself stay hydrated, use dust masks to prevent breathing silica dust, try to set up your dry washer so wind blows the dust away from you, have spare parts for your dry washer, your vehicle should be in good running order, plenty of gas, water, oil, tools you may need if there is a problem, if staying overnight all your camping equipment, food, water, first aid kit, if you have GPS that can help from possibly getting lost in the desert, maps, the list could go on and on, just be prepared.
When dry washing in desert areas you may run into a material called "caliche" it is hard packed clay or gravel sometimes called "false bed rock" sometimes the gold can settle on top of it, sometimes the gold can be trapped below in the bed rock, or on other caliche layers based on the amount of erosion of the base material over the years of running water and rain in the area, you can also look for rounded rocks on a hillside, this could have been the water level of ancient rivers. Beaches on the west coast with a lot of heavy black sand deposits could mean there is gold below, like in CA. OR., WA, and AK. Where ever you go I hope you have good luck in finding gold dry washing.


In the Gold Rush of 49, the "long- tom" and sluice combination was used by the miners and was the predecessor to the modern day sluice box, at first the "long- tom" and sluice was used to process the slurry from the use of the hydraulic monitor; the monitor was supplied by water brought to it through a flume, which was built far above the area where the miners were going to work, it was no more than a 3 sided trough made of wooden planks that carried the water down to a canvas hose, which later they used a crinoline covered canvas which reinforced the canvas, and later on it changed to a pipe which decreased in size along it's run to the monitor, this produce more pressure at the monitor nozzle, which could up to 200 lbs per square inch, the water at high pressure was used to erode the hills side bench gravels away, and run the gravel slurry down the "long-tom" to the sluice boxes at the end, at the end of the "long-tom" there was a perforated plate that would catch the large material and it was removed by the miners, and the fine material went to the sluice box's, the early sluice box's used poles that either ran vertical with the run of the sluice or horizontal across the sluice, or zig-zag blocks were used in the sluice and even a bed of stones to catch the gold, like it would in the river bottom, they also used a rocker box this was a two man operation, the hydraulic type of mining was soon banned around 1884, the farmers and ranchers went to the government in Sacramento, for help to stop the flooding and all the sediment from the use of the monitors coming down the stream, which ruined the farm land and pastures, later this was overturned, if the miners were to build structures which would catch the sediment and stop the flooding, but this didn't work so the ban stayed in effect.
The set up the sluice is important, you have to have enough drop from inlet to outlet of the sluice to move the material through it usually 1 inch per 1 foot of length, and level from side to side. Do some sampling of the area before choose a spot you want to set up your sluice, and an area you want to dig in, preferable close to the stream; it's nice not to have to carry material too far, the stream you set up in may not have enough water flow, you can increase this by directing the water to the sluice, by using a wig dam [rocks that are directed towards the sluice in a V pattern from the inlet end] , or pile rocks upstream to dam the water up to help the flow of water directed towards the sluice, also sometimes called an elevator / dam. When you think you have got every thing set up try a few rocks ¾ to 1 inch placed in the inlet of the sluice and see if they wash through, if they do you are probably ok to run your material, you can also try a few small pieces of lead shot to see where most of them get trapped in the riffles. It is also a good idea to anchor your sluice, using a flat rock on top of it to keep it from floating down stream, since most of the new ones today are made of aluminum, or some other light weight material. When running material through the sluice there are two thoughts on it, 1st is to classify the material down to ¼ inch minus, this will eliminate any larger material going through your sluice and knocking the gold out of the riffles, shovel enough fine material in and have it wash through and wash all the light material off, before the next shovel, so as not to clog up the riffles or have the gold wash out past the riffles and not being caught behind them. The second is to use a perforated plate insert above the riffles which will let the fine material drop through it and the larger material will go on through, either way is ok it just depends how much material you want to run or how quick you want to run it, slower is some times better, After running your sluice for awhile check the outlet end and see if there is a build up of material, if there is clear it away this could effect the flow through your sluice, also check the riffles to see if is a lot of material behind them, this is called "packed up", you could be losing gold, if there is you may need to increase the flow, the material should be in a swirling motion behind the riffle, and the heavy gold will drop in behind the riffle, if there is no material behind the riffles, you may need to decrease the flow of water through the sluice, this is called "boiling", if material builds up on one side and not the other, you may need to level your sluice from side to side, at the end of your run time it's time to clean up, pick the sluice straight up level and slow as not to let the water rush out the end you could lose some gold, clean everything up into a 5 gal. bucket, and pan your concentrate, and hope you have a lot of gold in your pan.



Right outside your front door and in your community is a source of wealth and money. Our local Parks are close to you and will give up their treasures with a little bit of work and persistence. All that is required is a Metal Detector, a trowel, and maybe a pin pointer, which does not have to be expensive to do the job. The metal detector price ranges from $100.to $1,500. And all will work to find treasures in the parks. 
On most occasions we use $100. Bounty Hunter Metal Detectors and found many coins to include pennies, dimes, and quarters. When detecting, go around fire pits, benches and especially on sides of slopes between the trees. Most coins are found at 2 to 4 inch depth and will require some digging to locate. Always check again because we find 2 or more coins together in a lot of locations. We used pin pointers to locate the targets faster which gave us more time to search for more items like jewelry, kids toys, along with dangerous items that can hurt lids, like pins and razor blades. Keep parks clean by picking up after those who are lazy and litter our parks. Talk to parents while you are at the parks and inform them of the dangers that you find. This will give you a good name with them and will be appreciated. Once you have found a new Park and find coins at the 3 to 4 inch levels go to a new park and search it. This Park will be there when you run out of places to go in the future. 
Remember, the Park does not have to be large to find treasures and do not forget the slopes where people sit to watch sports games as they are full of targets that have fallen out of pocket 


Metal Detecting Stories-1

My best finds are in the small parks that are Not centrally located in the cities. There is always a lot of pressure at the larger parks because the average treasure hunter thinks there is more lost items in these parks because of the crowds of people. Younger children are our best supplier of pennies, nickels, dimes, & quarters along with small chains and rings. Items fall out of pockets and other items break off while playing hard on the park equipment. Mom is our next best supplier by losing coins out of the pocket, while reaching for a Kleenex for the child.
Look on grass mounds and ledges where people might sit. Remember if you locate a target 2 inches from a concrete ledge (at 6 to 8 inches down) leave it as the target is usually a rebar. 
I set my detector for 2 to 6 inches as anything deeper is not worth spending your time on and deeper is not worth spending your extra time on. The metal detector will let you know not to dig up the pull tab you just got a beep from if it is set for shallow depth. 
When selecting a park, try to find the most children's equipment park and sports parks are great places to search. Spend your time on where people would sit and not on the fields as most people wear uniforms with nothing in their pockets and the grass is cut short so if they lose a ring or chain it can usually be found quickly. Check the areas with thicker grass. 
Try not to go out to parks to detect in a group. The park service personnel will usually leave you and your spouse alone where 4 or 5 people will draw attention and you may be asked to leave. Always report dangerous items you find the authorities. I take a camera with me to take pictures of where I found dangerous items. When I find pennies that are around 3 inches deep, all encrusted with Black corrosion, I have found the "Mother Lode" as this means no one has been there detecting before me, so I make several trips back to that same park, and it has never let me down.
In my future Metal Detecting stories, I will address looking for Cache's and exploring trails in Southern California, then Beaches which are near and dear to our hearts. Good luck and bring home the Gold & Silver.


Metal Detecting Stories-2

I like to combine trips when Metal Detecting In California, because of the versatile amount of things to do in the State. My wife and I will spend the morning panning for Gold and spend the afternoon searching trails and along streams for items the old miners lost and even the current miners also have lost. You will not believe what people lose out in the desert and in the mountains.
 One occasion we spent the morning looking for that elusive gold that we know is in the ground but just can't seem to locate. I will admit, I have found sand size gold nearly every time we go out, but I am always thinking about what I might be missing out on by not passing that magic wand (Metal Detector) over the grounds and in water in the streams. I have found many unique items along the stream banks in 3 inches of water. Old pocket knives, old tin cups, and old spoons. Nearly all Metal Detectors now days have water proof coils. Just remember, you have to adjust the discriminator and my trick is drill a small hole in a penny and tie a wire to it and strap it to the lace on your boot or shoe. With your feet in the water, pass the metal detector 3 inches above it and adjust the detector to beep at the proper level. When you are finished and out of the water, wipe off the coil and pass the metal detector over the coin again and adjust for out of the water. This coin keeps me from having to bend over all the time and pick up the coins. We finished off the afternoon walking up a trail that was once a stage line.
There are many old trails in California that pack trains and stage coaches used to transport supplies and equipment to the miners. I found the public library has old books on these trails in your area. Because they are in old books, you can not check them out but they have a copy machine to make copies of these map locations without taking the book out of the library.
Sue started down the two lane trail and found pieces of Iron springs from early stage coaches and old nuts and bolts. They are neat to find because they were made different from today's type. We also found old coins around the horse trough at rest stop stations. There were a lot of large old trees and rocks around the water well so we made extra passes around these areas and just like in the treasure books, we found a cache. It had money and survival supplies in it. The excitement of finding a box under a special large tree and in front of a boulder always comes back when telling friends and others about your find.
Most stage coach trails have bullet casings on them and once you find spent brass you will find lead around the fallen trees, so expect to hear that distinctive beep. Pick up and carry out any brass so people who come after don't encounter the same disappointment. Look for odd shaped trees and try to picture what they would have looked like 40 or more years ago and spend a little more time around them with your search coil. I am a believer in having 2 size coils. A smaller coil for desert, mountains, and streams, and a larger one for Beaches, lots, and parks. You can buy extra used and new coils from e-bay, or your local dealers or ask members of your local Prospector Association, they are always willing to help you out.
 Remember, it is easier to go Metal Detecting during week days as there are less people in the field and easier parking. Sunday afternoon and Monday Holiday afternoons are good times to get out. Good luck and bring home the Gold & Silver.


President's Message

I just received an email from the Las Vegas GPAA Club that they have cancelled their July meeting so I don’t feel so bad that TVP’s meeting fell on July the 4th this year. I know why we cancelled ours, but have no clue as to why they cancelled. Speaking of Las Vegas Rosalie and I got caught up in the traffic mess on I-15 on July 17th due to the fire in the Cajon Pass, thanks to everyone who called to let us know so we could take 247 out of Barstow and come home on the I-10. So now you know why I could not make the Gold Mt. outing on the 18th and I hear we had several brave members who did show up and had to leave because of the weather. Looks like July is just not going to be TVP’s best month.

Looking ahead we have a General Meeting on the 1st of August at 9am at the Assistance league in Temecula. To make up for July thanks to Sean Dupnak who has volunteered to pick up DUNKIN DONUTS for the meeting. Come early and help set up and have coffee and donuts.

In other news all is quite on the dredging front at this time as we prepare for the next court event in our efforts to try and restore our mining rights. I’m sure our own Bill Russell will have a full report on the subject. Carol Fuller has asked me to remind everyone to update your membership with her if you have not attended 3 meetings recently you will be dropped from our active member list, also as a member you need to be current to vote in the TVP elections in September. Speaking of elections if you or any current GPAA member and current club member wish to run for one of our elected offices please let our nominating committee headed by Phil Gellentien. The club always needs more volunteers to serve as officers, directors and board members. A club the size of TVP cannot function without many volunteers to help at all the events and functions that we do every year. That reminds me that we have several events coming up in Aug. we have the Sonora Gold Show, in Oct. it’s the Corn Maze at Big Horse Ranch and in November we will be showing 500 folks how to pan for gold at the Fallback Festival in San Diego , more on this at the general meeting. One last item we do have a guest speaker on rocks and minerals. That’s all for now hope to see everyone at the meeting for those DUNKIN DONUTS.

TVP president

Mike Mahr

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