• Temecula Valley Prospectors

    panninghelpTVP was formed September 2001. Our purpose is to provide an environment for both members and visitors to become more knowledgeable about the ecologically safe recovery of gold and gems from our public lands that are open to mineral entry. Also to teach each other about equipment use and methods as well as keeping up with the ever changing mining and prospecting laws.




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General Announcement for November

With the temperature changes this month many members have already been prospecting for Gold or metal detecting . It's time for the TVP club meeting at the Ronald Reagan Sports Park on Sat , Nov .8th, from 4:30-7:30 PM. You don't want to miss this meeting -- lots of news on the PLP event at Sleepy Bear Mine and results of the Corn Maze event. We will have guest speakers from within the club to share information on helpful hints for your financial health and gem prospecting.

There will be a Board of Director meeting on Thurs .6th of Nov. at 7pm. At the Tension Envelope Corp. 40750 Country Center Dr. Temecula Ca. Attention all Directors please be in attendance for this important meeting . Member Guests are welcome , become involved in your club , give us your input.

Help support your club by buying raffle tickets including tickets for the Grand Prize, the more tickets the better chance of winning.

General meeting –exit I-15 –freeway on Rancho Calif. Rd. go East to Ynez Rd. (1st stop light ) turn right . Turn left on Rancho Vista Rd (2nd stop light) go about 1 mile to the Sports Park on your right.

Remember to check out the TVP website for all the latest news and information www.temeculavalleyprospectors.com

The meeting is at 4:30 not the regular time of 9am.

We will have a card for Newell Frayne who suffered a mild stroke last week.
 
 
 

 
 

President Message

Another exciting month at TVP with so much going on its hard to find a starting place, so I will begin with the TVP meeting in October 11th. We had another excellent turn out of our members in excess of 70 showed up to listen to Patrick Ball explain about gems , a very interesting presentation enjoyed by all members. A special thanks to Don Starr for the wonderful items on the Raffle table, of course we expect this every month and to Doug Balhorn for keeping our members well dressed in TVP shirts, caps and sweat shirts. Shortly after the general meeting we visited the Assistance League at 28720 Via Montezuma to view our new meeting room and everyone agreed that this was a good choice, therefore we have signed a contract for the facility starting in January 3rd 2015. Temecula Valley Prospectors will be meeting at 9 AM -12pm. At this new location, That's the first SAT. of every month.

Many of us journeyed to the PLP outing at Sleepy Bear mine and what an enjoyable time we had, plenty of good food and lots of time to prospect the Sleepy Bear Mine and also the Atolia claim just a few miles away. Keene engineering had set up several new model dry washers and other equipment for demonstration. The outing was very well attended with tables of food and BBQ meats, the camp fire was huge I don't have the exact number of attendees but it was crowded and it was lucky we got there early to find a place to camp within walking distance to the main area, we made room for TVP members and also helped the Las Vegas Club locate near us. We all found some Gold and had a great time. We were able to meet with owners Joe Martori and his wife Karen ; they invited our club back any time. I'm sure we will have them at our meeting in the near future as guest speakers . A special thanks to Jim & Sue Jefferies at the American Prospector Treasure Seeker located right here in Temecula for hosting the event.

The Corn Maze was a great success this year, even 3 panning stations barely handled the crowd, thanks to all the members who volunteered and answered my phone calls and emails. I will give total results at the general meeting, but the numbers are above any expectations. It could only happen with the crews we had every day and the human talking GOLD NUGGET. The next event is the Fallback Festival and I'm excited about this November the 9th club activity because its downtown San Diego at the Gas Lamp District and promises to be a exciting day, just think 400 gold bags , as usual we need volunteers (if I have any left) so raise your hand at the Nov. meeting.

On the personal side some of you already know our Vice President Newell Frayne had a mild stroke; please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. The other sad news is my sister in law passed on the 25th of October due to Cancer.

The Christmas Party will be heal at the Ronal Reagan Center on the 10th of December at 6pm-9pm. This proves to be a fun time for all members with lots of food, Turkeys and Ham provided by the club, table settings and coffee are also included. Members will be asked to bring a side dish for 5 and or desserts. A special program is planned so be sure and attend.

To all members, the Elected Officers and Board of Directors including all the volunteer Chairpersons wish you and your family Happy Thanks gives.

See all of you at the next meeting,
 
Mike

Event Schedule

2nd Sunday of every month Metal Detecting events:

January
Bolsa Chica Beach
February
San Onofre State Beach
March
Perris Lake – back side/camping area
April
Canyon Lake with picnic – need to apply
May
Cal Oaks Park (on 3rd Sunday to avoid Mother’s Day on 2nd Sunday)
June
TO BE DETERMINED
July
Ronald Regan Park in Temecula
August
Oceanside – North of Pier
September
Carlsbad State Beach
October
Live Oak Park in Fallbrook

 

 

Metal Detecting

Sun, July 14th
Time: 8am, meet at the playground area
Where: Ronald Reagan Park
42659 Margarita Road
Temecula, CA 92592

November Club Meeting

The November meeting of the Temecula Valley Prospectors will be held on Saturday 8th 4:30-7:30 p.m. for those who can help set up at 3:30 p.m. the help is greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who have helped set up and take down at all the general meetings.

Our meetings are normally held on the 2nd Saturday of every month at the Ronald Reagan Sports Park in the CRC building located at 30873 Rancho Vista Road Temecula Ca.
The Club is being BUMPED this month to 430-730 p.m. because the facility has the right to use the building for city events.

Everyone is welcome to attend our meetings, we are a chapter of GPAA (headquartered) in Temecula ca. there is no charge to become a club member and children are welcome. Temecula Valley Prospectors is a family organization.

Don't forget all members are welcome to attend the TVP Board of Directors meeting which will be held Thursday Nov. 6th before the general meeting at 7 p.m. at Tension Envelope Corp. located at 40750 Country Center Dr. Temecula Ca.

At the October board meeting we had a full agenda of many bylaws changes that were approved by the board of directors and the general membership. The Board confirmed the Corn Maze event at Big Horse Ranch for the 18/19 25/26 the of Oct . also confirmed was the Fallback Festival in San Diego on the 9th of Nov. 10-4 p.m. The outing schedule for 2015 was prepared and will be on the web site soon . The most exciting news is that we have found a new meeting location beginning on JANUARY we will meet at 9 a.m.-12 p.m. on the 1st SAT of every month at the Assistance League in Temecula (old Pinkies bowling Alley) located at 28720 Via Montezuma which is across the street from the CA. Hwy Patrol office . Directions will be handed out at the Nov. and Dec. meetings . The Christmas Party will be held Dec. 11th 5 p.m. -10 p.m. at the Ronald Reagan Center CRC room all members are welcome please bring a side dish and a desserts. It is recommended that all members on outings and events wear a N95 or N100 mask for your protection. Congrats . to our newly elected Board of Directors members Phil Gellentein, Doug Balhorn and Jack Barber also new chairpersons Robert Fuller on Metal Detecting and Don Starr on the Raffle table and Linda Haroldson on refreshments. Be sure and tell GPAA when you renew your membership that you are a Member of the Temecula Valley Prospectors we need the points for our Christmas presents.

The club had a fantastic guest speaker Patrick Ball on Gems we all learned what to look for before buying. The next grand prize is the Falcon Metal Detector so be sure and buy your tickets and support your gold prospecting club. If you attended the Sleepy Bear outing in Randsburg on the 18/19 of Oct. I know you had a great time lots of food and giveaways also metal detecting and drywashing , with Keene displaying their new equipment.

Volunteers needed for the Corn Maze event on the 25/26 of Oct. It's the time of the year when we have our Panning booth set up to show kids and even adults how to pan for gold . The club also gives away GPAA Magazines and information on joining TVP, it's a great time to meet people and work with fellow club members . Call Mike 760-473-8456 to join the fun , volunteer a few hours.
 
We have great raffles each month in which you can participate and win prizes just by buying raffle tickets . It's a lot of fun to participate , especially when you win. Don't forget the 50/50 raffle and the finds of the month competition.
 
Support your club buy purchasing some of our shirts , caps and sweat shirts with logo's Doug says, let's move out this inventory by the end of the year , so we can buy new items for your use.
 
 

CHAPTER SUPPORT

Help to keep the, "TEMECULA VALLEY PROSPECTORS" a strong chapter, we ask of you since there are no dues to be a member of Temecula Valley Prospectors, we ask for your help by supporting your club with the purchasing of some raffle tickets, this gives you a chance at winning some nice prizes, and now when you spend $20.00 dollars you will get an extra ticket for a special drawing at the Christmas Party which will be a 1/2 oz. gold nugget, and that will a nice prize for the lucky winner.
 
We also have a selection of prospecting equipment that can be checked out and used by the members at no charge, rather than spending the money and then finding out it's not what you really wanted.
 
Jeff and Reb Baraglia as Librarians, replacing the Gundersons will be able to help with checking the books out and help finding that special book you are looking for. There are books on Metal Detecting, Rock and Gem hunting and collecting, maps with old ghost town and old gold mines to explore, there are also VHS and CD's on mining tips, and How to Advice, also some of the books show you how to build your own equipment, all you have to do is fill out the card and return the books at the next meeting. So enjoy your TVP library.
 
The money from the purchase of raffle tickets help with the purchase and maintaince of the new claims, our storage facility, purchase of new equipment, insurance for the club, buying books for the library, to maintain our website, buying prizes for the monthly raffles, donations for the refreshments help pay for the next meeting refreshments, also for paying the rent for the building we meet in, and the annual fees we have to pay for our claims.
These are some of the ways to support your club, and to keep it as successful as we can.
 
Buy Raffle Tickets
And
Volunteer
September 13th, 2014
Picnic / Potluck at Mahr’s Pond
October 18th and 19th, 2014
Octoberfest, Randsburg, Ca
October 25th & 26th, 2014
Big Horse Corn Maze
November 15th & 16th, 2014
Red Cloud
December last weekend of month
Quartzsite, Az


 

 

If anyone is not going attend the PLP Octoberfest outing, and we get enough volunteers to man the Big Horse Corn Maze, TVP Booth we can get the weekend of October 18th and 19th, as long as we let Big Horse Corn Maze know after the October general meeting..

Details for the Octoberfest Fundraiser

Sponsored By:

American Prospectors Treasurer Seekers and PLP

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Upcoming Outings

PLP Octoberfest

 
Be sure to RSVP to WWW.APTS.COM, if you plan on attending the outing before September 20th, 2014 be sure to check the flier that tells all about the events that they will have for the weekend, also remember this is also TVP’s October outing.

THE DRYWASHER

This was put together from reading several articles on dry washing and coming up with
this article on dry washing, hope it is helpful, and good luck.
Some good spots to try dry washing are, where new roads have been cut: you will able
to see the different layers and sample the layers to which might be the best place to dig,
dry washes: are also a good spot to check out because the heavy rains could have moved
a lot of placer gold during the flooding and to drop out in the bends of the wash and even
down to bed rock, old mine dumps: the equipment used was primarily getting the larger
pieces and there could be smaller gold left behind that the dry washer would get, tailing
piles: the same holds true just like mine dumps, gravel deposits: always check them out
they can be a good source of gold, mountain tops: in ancient times these could have been
river beds, slopes: the alluvial fan deposits could be good source of gold, dry lake beds
and buried stream beds: both of these are a good source of gold, where once the streams
carried gold into the lakes before they dried up.
In the early years the prospectors used a method called "winnowing", this was done by
putting the material on a blanket and bouncing it up and down, this would let the light
material blow off and the fine flower gold would get trapped in the blanket fibers. The
dry washers used today there are two types one is the bellows or puffer, or constant air
and the other is electrostatic.
When looking for a good spot to set up your dry washer, it helps to do some sampling
instead of digging in an area that might not produce gold, you can dry pan, classify
material to 1/8 minus use the same technique as wet panning, shake pan back and forth
to settle the heavy's, pick out large rocks [inspect them before discarding, might have
gold], bounce the material down to one side and lightly blow off the light material. If you
do a lot of sampling it is good idea to bag samples and mark location for a return trip.
Take the samples back to camp and wet pan them out. Use a metal detector to help locate
a possible good area to dig, or even a pair of dowsing rods the more help you have the
better the gold could be.
But there is one important thing to do before running the material and that is to check the
moisture of the material, if you can take a handful of material and squeeze it and it pack
into a clump, it is a good idea to be dried out before running thru the dry washer, spread
material on a trap and keep moving it around to let the sun dry it. There is a formula you
can use to find the moisture content, but the trap method is easier.
After you have determined where the mother load is, the material you plan to run works
better if classified down to 1/4 minus this will keep large rocks from possibly knocking
out gold, when running the material check the riffles to see if there is a lot of black sand
building up and clogging up the dead air space behind the riffles.
There are also hazards that come with dry washing in the desert areas, abandon mine
shafts and drift tunnels, heat in the summer months. Dry washing can be exhausting work
so pace yourself stay hydrated, use dust masks to prevent breathing silica dust, try to set
up your dry washer so wind blows the dust away from you, have spare parts for your dry
washer, your vehicle should be in good running order, plenty of gas, water, oil, tools you
may need if there is a problem, if staying overnight all your camping equipment, food,
water, first aid kit, if you have GPS that can help from possibly getting lost in the desert,
maps, the list could go on and on, just be prepared.
When dry washing in desert areas you may run into a material called "caliche" it is hard
packed clay or gravel sometimes called "false bed rock" sometimes the gold can settle
on top of it, sometimes the gold can be trapped below in the bed rock, or on other caliche
layers based on the amount of erosion of the base material over the years of running
water and rain in the area, you can also look for rounded rocks on a hillside, this could
have been the water level of ancient rivers. Beaches on the west coast with a lot of heavy
black sand deposits could mean there is gold below, like in CA. OR., WA, and AK.
Where ever you go I hope you have good luck in finding gold dry washing.
 



SLUICE BOXES AND THERE SETUP

In the Gold Rush of 49, the "long- tom" and sluice combination was used by the miners and was the predecessor to the modern day sluice box, at first the "long- tom" and sluice was used to process the slurry from the use of the hydraulic monitor; the monitor was supplied by water brought to it through a flume, which was built far above the area where the miners were going to work, it was no more than a 3 sided trough made of wooden planks that carried the water down to a canvas hose, which later they used a crinoline covered canvas which reinforced the canvas, and later on it changed to a pipe which decreased in size along it's run to the monitor, this produce more pressure at the monitor nozzle, which could up to 200 lbs per square inch, the water at high pressure was used to erode the hills side bench gravels away, and run the gravel slurry down the "long-tom" to the sluice boxes at the end, at the end of the "long-tom" there was a perforated plate that would catch the large material and it was removed by the miners, and the fine material went to the sluice box's, the early sluice box's used poles that either ran vertical with the run of the sluice or horizontal across the sluice, or zig-zag blocks were used in the sluice and even a bed of stones to catch the gold, like it would in the river bottom, they also used a rocker box this was a two man operation, the hydraulic type of mining was soon banned around 1884, the farmers and ranchers went to the government in Sacramento, for help to stop the flooding and all the sediment from the use of the monitors coming down the stream, which ruined the farm land and pastures, later this was overturned, if the miners were to build structures which would catch the sediment and stop the flooding, but this didn't work so the ban stayed in effect.
 
The set up the sluice is important, you have to have enough drop from inlet to outlet of the sluice to move the material through it usually 1 inch per 1 foot of length, and level from side to side. Do some sampling of the area before choose a spot you want to set up your sluice, and an area you want to dig in, preferable close to the stream; it's nice not to have to carry material too far, the stream you set up in may not have enough water flow, you can increase this by directing the water to the sluice, by using a wig dam [rocks that are directed towards the sluice in a V pattern from the inlet end] , or pile rocks upstream to dam the water up to help the flow of water directed towards the sluice, also sometimes called an elevator / dam. When you think you have got every thing set up try a few rocks ¾ to 1 inch placed in the inlet of the sluice and see if they wash through, if they do you are probably ok to run your material, you can also try a few small pieces of lead shot to see where most of them get trapped in the riffles. It is also a good idea to anchor your sluice, using a flat rock on top of it to keep it from floating down stream, since most of the new ones today are made of aluminum, or some other light weight material. When running material through the sluice there are two thoughts on it, 1st is to classify the material down to ¼ inch minus, this will eliminate any larger material going through your sluice and knocking the gold out of the riffles, shovel enough fine material in and have it wash through and wash all the light material off, before the next shovel, so as not to clog up the riffles or have the gold wash out past the riffles and not being caught behind them. The second is to use a perforated plate insert above the riffles which will let the fine material drop through it and the larger material will go on through, either way is ok it just depends how much material you want to run or how quick you want to run it, slower is some times better, After running your sluice for awhile check the outlet end and see if there is a build up of material, if there is clear it away this could effect the flow through your sluice, also check the riffles to see if is a lot of material behind them, this is called "packed up", you could be losing gold, if there is you may need to increase the flow, the material should be in a swirling motion behind the riffle, and the heavy gold will drop in behind the riffle, if there is no material behind the riffles, you may need to decrease the flow of water through the sluice, this is called "boiling", if material builds up on one side and not the other, you may need to level your sluice from side to side, at the end of your run time it's time to clean up, pick the sluice straight up level and slow as not to let the water rush out the end you could lose some gold, clean everything up into a 5 gal. bucket, and pan your concentrate, and hope you have a lot of gold in your pan.
 

 

METAL DETECTING

Right outside your front door and in your community is a source of wealth and money. Our local Parks
are close to you and will give up their treasures with a little bit of work and persistence. All that is
required is a Metal Detector, a trowel, and maybe a pin pointer, which does not have to be expensive to
do the job. The metal detector price ranges from $100.to $1,500. And all will work to find treasures in
the parks.
 
On most occasions we use $100. Bounty Hunter Metal Detectors and found many coins to include
pennies, dimes, and quarters. When detecting, go around fire pits, benches and especially on sides of
slopes between the trees. Most coins are found at 2 to 4 inch depth and will require some digging to
locate. Always check again because we find 2 or more coins together in a lot of locations. We used
pin pointers to locate the targets faster which gave us more time to search for more items like jewelry,
kids toys, along with dangerous items that can hurt lids, like pins and razor blades. Keep parks clean
by picking up after those who are lazy and litter our parks. Talk to parents while you are at the parks
and inform them of the dangers that you find. This will give you a good name with them and will be
appreciated. Once you have found a new Park and find coins at the 3 to 4 inch levels go to a new park
and search it. This Park will be there when you run out of places to go in the future.
 
Remember, the Park does not have to be large to find treasures and do not forget the slopes where
people sit to watch sports games as they are full of targets that have fallen out of pocket
 

 

Metal Detecting Stories-1

My best finds are in the small parks that are Not centrally located in the cities. There is always
a lot of pressure at the larger parks because the average treasure hunter thinks there is more
lost items in these parks because of the crowds of people. Younger children are our best
supplier of pennies, nickels, dimes, & quarters along with small chains and rings. Items fall out
of pockets and other items break off while playing hard on the park equipment. Mom is our
next best supplier by losing coins out of the pocket, while reaching for a Kleenex for the child.
Look on grass mounds and ledges where people might sit. Remember if you locate a target 2
inches from a concrete ledge (at 6 to 8 inches down) leave it as the target is usually a rebar.
 
I set my detector for 2 to 6 inches as anything deeper is not worth spending your time on and
deeper is not worth spending your extra time on. The metal detector will let you know not to
dig up the pull tab you just got a beep from if it is set for shallow depth.
 
When selecting a park, try to find the most children's equipment park and sports parks are
great places to search. Spend your time on where people would sit and not on the fields as
most people wear uniforms with nothing in their pockets and the grass is cut short so if they
lose a ring or chain it can usually be found quickly. Check the areas with thicker grass.
 
Try not to go out to parks to detect in a group. The park service personnel will usually leave
you and your spouse alone where 4 or 5 people will draw attention and you may be asked to
leave. Always report dangerous items you find the authorities. I take a camera with me to
take pictures of where I found dangerous items. When I find pennies that are around 3 inches
deep, all encrusted with Black corrosion, I have found the "Mother Lode" as this means no one
has been there detecting before me, so I make several trips back to that same park, and it has
never let me down.
 
In my future Metal Detecting stories, I will address looking for Cache's and exploring trails in
Southern California, then Beaches which are near and dear to our hearts. Good luck and bring
home the Gold & Silver.
 

 

Metal Detecting Stories-2

I like to combine trips when Metal Detecting In California, because of the versatile amount of
things to do in the State. My wife and I will spend the morning panning for Gold and spend
the afternoon searching trails and along streams for items the old miners lost and even the
current miners also have lost. You will not believe what people lose out in the desert and in the
Mountains.
 
One occasion we spent the morning looking for that elusive gold that we know is in the ground
but just can't seem to locate. I will admit, I have found sand size gold nearly every time we go
out, but I am always thinking about what I might be missing out on by not passing that magic
wand (Metal Detector) over the grounds and in water in the streams. I have found many
unique items along the stream banks in 3 inches of water. Old pocket knives, old tin cups, and
old spoons. Nearly all Metal Detectors now days have water proof coils. Just remember, you
have to adjust the discriminator and my trick is drill a small hole in a penny and tie a wire to
it and strap it to the lace on your boot or shoe. With your feet in the water, pass the metal
detector 3 inches above it and adjust the detector to beep at the proper level. When you are
finished and out of the water, wipe off the coil and pass the metal detector over the coin again
and adjust for out of the water. This coin keeps me from having to bend over all the time and
pick up the coins. We finished off the afternoon walking up a trail that was once a stage line.
There are many old trails in California that pack trains and stage coaches used to transport
supplies and equipment to the miners. I found the public library has old books on these trails
in your area. Because they are in old books, you can not check them out but they have a copy
machine to make copies of these map locations without taking the book out of the library.
 
Sue started down the two lane trail and found pieces of Iron springs from early stage coaches
and old nuts and bolts. They are neat to find because they were made different from today's
type. We also found old coins around the horse trough at rest stop stations. There were a lot
of large old trees and rocks around the water well so we made extra passes around these areas
and just like in the treasure books, we found a cache. It had money and survival supplies in
it. The excitement of finding a box under a special large tree and in front of a boulder always
comes back when telling friends and others about your find.
 
Most stage coach trails have bullet casings on them and once you find spent brass you will
find lead around the fallen trees, so expect to hear that distinctive beep. Pick up and carry out
any brass so people who come after don't encounter the same disappointment. Look for odd
shaped trees and try to picture what they would have looked like 40 or more years ago and
spend a little more time around them with your search coil. I am a believer in having 2 size
coils. A smaller coil for desert, mountains, and streams, and a larger one for Beaches, lots, and
parks. You can buy extra used and new coils from e-bay, or your local dealers or ask members
of your local Prospector Association, they are always willing to help you out.
 
Remember, it is easier to go Metal Detecting during week days as there are less people in the
field and easier parking. Sunday afternoon and Monday Holiday afternoons are good times to
get out. Good luck and bring home the Gold & Silver.
 

 
 
 
 
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